Episode #12 of The year of the Dragon: Europe’s relationship to China

In this episode, Anna Rennéus Guthrie, director Stockholm Free World Forum, and Patrik Oksanen, resident senior fellow Stockholm Free World Forum, speak with Noah Barkin, senior advisor Rhodium Group, visiting senior fellow with the German Marshall Fund and editor of the monthly newsletter Watching China in Europe, about the relationship status between China and Europe.

How can Europe avoid a future two-front trade-conflict with the US and China? What does China’s support for Russia in the war in Ukraine mean for Europe? And how should the EU deal with recent suspicions of a Chinese vessel cutting cables on the Baltic Sea bed?

”I think a lot of a lot of policy in Europe, some European capitals, has been driven by fear of Chinese retaliation, rather than a perception that Europe has some leverage if it is united and uses that leverage well. That is the struggle Europe faces.”

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